had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely extraterrestrial visitor tells earthmen about the undiscovered Martian moons. ch. Ancient [12] According to Oberg, the Dogons' astronomical information resembled the knowledge and speculations of late 1920s Europe, suggesting that the Dogon were influenced by European visitors before their mythology was recorded in the 1930s. The "mystery" that is central to the book is how the Dogon allegedly acquired knowledge of Sirius B, the white dwarf companion star of Sirius A, invisible to the naked eye. Ancient astronauts entrepreneur Erich von Daniken endorses and adopts Temple's explanations in his latest book, Von Daniken's Proof. good amount of discussion of Sirius in the scientific press in the '20s so But even after hundreds of pages of myths and interpretations Temple fails to make a connection between ancient Egypt and the modern Dogons; instead he "assumes" it. The Dogon. This drawing is used by those who support the idea that the Dogon were taugfht about Sirius B by aliens. Figure 1. Some pseudosciences such as homeopathy and free energy never die. Although we can occasionally claim victory (are there any alchemists left? They observe that information about the odd invisible companion of Sirius had been widely published in Europe years before Europeans recorded the Dogon myths. Scientists learn that the Dogon do not possess secret knowledge about the star Sirius and its companions. (OK, but if it's not true then Temple may suddenly discover that, as in another similar case, "the Dogon information must be not only garbled (or perhaps concealed in line with a secretive tradition) but only partially true." Seeking Clarity? The immunity of pseudoscientists to criticism is well known to skeptics, yet I was curious. Modern astronomers have discovered the remains of the supernova Vela-X in a constellation which would have been visible in the low southern sky from Sumer. Bullard, Thomas. It was popularized in an episode from the In Search of television series narrated by Leonard Nimoy. He made no secret of the fact that his intention was to redeem 139-167. I disagree. | 3938 State St., Suite # 101, Santa Barbara, CA, 93105-3114 | 1-805-576-9396. Temple's impressive research was encouraged by noted futurist Arthur C, Clarke (although Clarke now prefers the "modern influence" hypothesis). Temple, however, has stated in the reprint of The Sirius Mystery (1999) that he in no way supports what he refers to as "sinister cults" that have been inspired by his book. Of those websites, over 400 had been updated within the last three months. Temples response to criticism has so far been evasive. The diagram is only convincing as a representation of Sirius B orbiting Sirius A when most of the original symbols are eliminated. Also, why would the Dogan people not divulge where they received such recent knowledge of transfer if they had of gotten this knowledge from Europeans. 1995. The Dogon myths may or may not be related to these other putties (or even to Kepler's supernova, which has been seriously suggested.) If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. Readers of Skeptic are not so sanguine. companion" (Bullard). in elliptical orbits of astronomical phenomena. Therefore, if Sirius C exists, it must orbit Sirius A. knowledge of the satellites of Jupiter and rings of Saturn, among other Zeta Reticuli 2 (with about the same temperature and mass as the Sun) is another candidate. The Dogon are believed to be of Egyptian decent and their astronomical lore goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. The book presents the hypothesis that the Dogon people of Mali, in West Africa, preserve a tradition of contact with intelligent extraterrestrial beings from the Sirius star system. Unfortunately the ancient records contain no clear, unambiguous references to this Sirius lore although the works of historians, astronomers and philosophers were explicit and detailed on innumerable other subjects. Given that the French stayed in their territory for five weeks and had several local guides, it would not be surprising if they shared some astronomical knowledge during that time. Many served in the French army in World War I and some of them could have returned years later with colorful embellishments for their native legends. This is the original Dogon drawing. This step was taken by others, particularly Temple, in the Sixties and Seventies. Dogon descriptions of Jupiter, Saturn and Sirius remind one of Jonathan Swift's uncanny description of the two undiscovered moons of Mars. The Sirius mystery, though, remains of great interest to many researchers today. Appleby also believes there exists a modern arrogance that cannot countenance the idea that ancient civilisations might have been scientifically superior. One example: "If a Sirius-C is ever discovered and found to be a red dwarf, I will conclude that the Dogon information has been fully validated." WebNew evidence deals a devastating blow to what was considered to be the best case for extraterrestrial visitation. WebDogon and the Sirius Mystery. To quote Ancient Mysteries: While Temple, following Griaule, assumes that to polo is the invisible star Sirius B, the Dogon themselves, as reported by Griaule, say something quite different. To quote the Dogon: When Digitaria (to polo) is close to Sirius, the latter becomes brighter; when it is at its most distant from Sirius, Digitaria gives off a twinkling effect, suggesting several stars to the observer. This description of a very visible effect causes James and Thorpe to wonder as anyone reading this should do whether to polo is therefore an ordinary star near Sirius, not an invisible companion, as Griaule and Temple suggest. The book's advertising blurb quotes prolific science writer Isaac Asimov, who says, "I couldn't find any mistakes in this book. "We have in the Dogon information a predictive mechanism which it is our duty to test, regardless of our preconceptions." The Bad Archaeology page on the Sirius Mystery has summarize the basic details well: In 1976, Robert K G Temple (born 1945), an American living in the UK, published what was to become a seminal work of Bad Archaeology, The Sirius Mystery. The Sirius Mystery is a book written by Robert K. G. Temple (born Robert Kyle Grenville Temple in 1945) supporting the pseudoscientific[1] ancient astronauts hypothesis that intelligent extraterrestrial beings visited the Earth and made contact with humans in antiquity and prehistoric times. To penetrate this supposed disguise (which might not be a disguise at all, other classical scholars maintain), Temple resorts to ancient puns, to hidden meanings, to "garbled versions" which he must amend to fit the theory, to the exchange of consonants in innocent-looking words, to similar-sounding words from What about Sirius? ", British astronomy popularizer fan Ridpath, writing in the quarterly Skeptical Inquirer (Fall 1978), blasted Temple's "brain-numbing excursions into Egyptology." It is a type of fuel that can lead to what Clay Farris Naff cleverly calls the neuron bomb. In this post, Michael Shermer asks, Is there a moral standard that stands above all the worlds religions that is based on some transcendent source?. Feature Articles Dogon shame Did ancient gods from the Sirius star system visit an African tribe 5,000 years ago? The diagram that Temple presents, however, is not the The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. The inspiration for this claim was a star map produced by Betty Hill while under hypnosis. The parts that bear at least a superficial resemblance to astronomical facts are most likely trimmings added in this century. Copyright 19922023. What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. Unfortunately he neglects to mention other bas-reliefs which show "fish-deer" and "fish-lions" and which consequently suggest that the fish motif was symbolic, not descriptive. Sagan, Although Temple fails to prove its antiquity, the evidence for the recent acquisition of the information is still entirely circumstantial. [3] These beings, who are hypothesized to have taught the arts of civilization to humans, are claimed in the book to have originated the systems of the Pharaohs of Egypt, the mythology of Greek civilization, and the Epic of Gilgamesh, among other things. It is also possible to conclude that such a star could in no way be responsible for the flurry of sightings from the 1920s, it would be too faint and too close to Sirius A to have ever been seen by visual observers.[17]. James and Thorpe understate the problem when they say this is very worrying. Griaule claimed that about 15 per cent of the Dogon tribe possessed this secret knowledge, but Van Beek could find no trace of it in the decade he spent with the Dogon. (In response, Temple has drawn up the ridiculous image of natives laborously hauling a giant instrument through the west African mud -- when in fact a four inch reflector would do just fine, and I once owned one that weighed about ten pounds including mount.) Seriously: The Dogon and Sirius? "Dogon Restudied: A Field Evaluation of the Work of Marcel The Dogon were in fact aware of the fact that Sirius is a binary system (i.e. There are innocent available explanations: typographical error or miscopied notes, for example. (Photo by John and Keturah. The Dogon also knew Sirius B was about the size of Earth and spun on its axis. MANY SKEPTICS WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT ONCE SOMETHING IS debunked, that will be the end of it. To be specific they sound like the kinds of astronomical conclusions one might draw from studying the heavens through a small portable telescope. Concludes Sagan, "There are too many loopholes, too many alternate explanations for such a myth to provide reliable evidence of past extraterrestrial contact. Finally, he asked me point-blank if I could point out any errors in it and partly out of politeness, partly to get rid of him, and partly because I had been able to read very little of the book so that the answer was true, I said I could not point out any errors. var d=new Date();var n=d.toLocaleDateString();var t=d.toLocaleTimeString(); document.write(n + "
" + t); Want to know your future? Except that this isnt the original Dogon drawing. Carl Sagan agreed with Temple that the Dogon could not have acquired The Dogon legend connected with Sirius, wrote Ridpath, "is riddled with ambiguities, contradictions, and downright errors, at least if we try to interpret it literally." The Dogon also hold a big sigui ceremony every 60 years, which some interpret as representing the period of time it takes Sirius B to go around Sirius A. One of the problems the UFO crowd has is providing an answer to the question of where the aliens who visit us come from. For instance, the anthropologist Walter Van Beek, who studied the Dogon after Griaule and Dieterlen, found no evidence that the Dogon considered Sirius to be a double star and/or that astronomy was particularly important in their belief system. Europeans too believed that the "white dwarf' Sirius-B star was the heaviest thing in the universe, although in later years astronomers were to find The biggest challenge to Griaule, however, came from anthropologist Walter Van Beek. myths by confabulation." Temple considers alternative possibilities other than alien contact, such as a very ancient, advanced, and lost civilization that was behind the sudden appearance of advanced civilization in both Egypt and Sumer. %PDF-1.4 Temple's book mentions the absorption of a Christ-figure into the traditional Dogon Pantheon, obviously a recent addition. from black Egyptians who had telescopes. But my own measurements, which [5], Astronomer Carl Sagan touched upon the issue in his book Broca's Brain (1979), seeing problems in Temple's hypothesis. of earth and transmitted in conversation. Were aliens, lost technology or something else entirely involved? "Perhaps (Oberg) is unaware," Temple went on, "that the differential curvature of the earth variously distorts distances shown on maps. Legends of the Dogon Belief in a Long-Solved Mystery Resurfaces. September 1976 saw This sounds significant and convincing until one measures the distance on a map and discovers an "immensely accurate equality" of a twenty percent difference! The Dogon are a people of about 100,000 who dwell in western Africa. Astronomers Carl Sagan and Ian Ridpath, for example, have suggested that the modern astronomical aspects of the complex Dogon mythology entered the lore only recently, probably shortly before the myths were written down in the 1930s. the Sirius "Mystery" by Ian Ridpath, Skeptical Inquirer, Fall WebThe population numbers between 400,000 and 800,000.. . And as to good manners, Temple for his part has never answered any of my own personal letters asking for clarification and explanation of controversial points. Concluded Ridpath: "The parts of the Dogon knowledge that are admittedly both ancient and profound, particularly the story of Nommo and the concept of twinning, are the parts that bear least relation to the true facts about Sirius. I certainly concur with the first of those sentences! fifty years. To recapitulate: Griaule claimed to have been initiated into the secret mysteries of the male Dogon, during which they allegedly told him of Sirius (sigu tolo in their language) and its two invisible companions. WebDogon and the Sirius Mystery. Temple offered another line of reasoning. Our mysteries may be different but our questions are the same and we are no wiser. The Sirius mystery, though, remains of great interest to many researchers today. Strangely, ancient records explicitly list Sirius as one of six "red stars." Its appearance in the dawn sky over Egypt warned of the impending Nile floods and the summer's heat and marked the beginning of the Egyptian calendar. to other visible stars near Sirius as recognition of the invisible WebRe: Dogon Sirius claim debunked - Graham Hancock Official Website Mysteries Taken from [ library.thinkquest.org] According to the Dogon priests, Sirius is orbited by a tiny secret star that they refer to as 'po', which traces an elliptical path around Sirius taking 50 years to I wonder. Here is an example of how hard it can be to critically examine the claims in the book. Clearly the Dogons (in common with many other cultures) were fascinated by Sirius, probably because its position in the sky was crucial to successful agriculture (it's the only star they have a name for.) Afrocentrists, on the other hand, claimed that the Dogon could see Oberg does concede, however, that theories of recent acquisition are "entirely circumstantial" and have no foundation in documented evidence. He shows a total ignorance or disregard for almost every fact in my book, and there is hardly a single thing in his review which is remotely accurate." based his account on an interview with one person, Ambara, and an James, P., N. Thorpe, and I. J. Thorpe. Several possibilities exist. Precise maps at the NASA space photo interpretation lab in Houston list "Behdet" as an ancient name for modern Damanhur, located today at 31.03 degN, 30.28 degE, i.e., more than a hundred kilometers away from where Temple locates his "Behdet" at 31.50 degN, 31.23 degE. In the 1930s, when their research was carried out, Sirius B was known to have existed, even though it was only photographed in 1970. Inevitably one must ask, if the Dogons had heard good stories about Sirius from other sources, would they ignore them or would they quickly adopt them into their own cultural myths? The assyrians called Sirius Kal-bu-sa mas (the Dog of the Sun) and in Chaldea, it was known as Kak-shisha (The Dog Star That Leads) Known History of the Dogon According to Dogon mythology, Nommo was the first living being created by Amma, the sky god and creator of the universe. Seriously: The Dogon and Sirius? by Philip Coppens. civilization. Giants appear in cultures around the world: Biblical tales of giants more than ten feet tall; Roman and Greek stories of titans and heroes; European stories of giants of mountain and hill. Also if it was seeded by westerners how is the Dogon and surrounding tribes have a fully developed culture and religion structure centered around Sirius going back for hundreds of years? You dont have to watch too many Fantasy Channel (formerly known as the History Channel) specials on ancient astronauts before youll be told about the primitive African Dogon of Mali and their advanced astronomical knowledge bestowed, of course, by extraterrestrials. As the brightest star in the sky it was known and worshiped by ancient civilizations. They have a traditional belief in a heliocentric system and WebThe Dogon reportedly related to Griaule and Dieterlen a belief that the Nommos were inhabitants of a world circling the star Sirius (see the main article on the Dogon for a discussion of their astronomical knowledge). Worse still, hundreds of thousands of years ago, Sirius B was a dying red giant. In 1977 two radio astronomers were interested enough in the Sirius mystery to direct their telescopes at the star system in hopes of picking up any artificial radio signals. October 1977 saw Marvin Luckermann's "More Sirius Difficulties," on ancient calendar systems and an alternate, non- extraterrestrial explanation for the ancient fascination with the number fifty (the article quotes Michael Astour's book Hellenosemitics as saying, "This exorbitant figure, very popular in Greek myths, has its explanation: it is the number of seven-day weeks in one lunar year. by Philip Coppens. answer is that they got this information from amphibious aliens from outer Van Beek actually spoke to some of Griaules original informants; he noted that though they do speak about sigu tolo [interpreted by Griaule as their name for Sirius itself], they disagree completely with each other as to which star is meant; for some, it is an invisible star that should rise to announce the sigu [festival], for another it is Venus that, through a different position, appears as sigu tolo. Indeed, in view of the Dogon fixation with Sirius it would surely be more surprising if they had not grafted on to their existing legend some new astronomical information gained from Europeans. York: Random House, 1995). Sagan further commented that he was surprised, given the freedom of viewpoint that Fish used, that her map didnt match the Hill map better!4. ), There were Giants in the earthin those days Genesis 6:1. hVt*f+"c2aC-w.EJ|@F[VXLV~oo>l B>xU.9y'nYnZ6aBlc3y&A%M]XME Sirius B was first observed in 1862, and had been predicted in 1844 on dynamic grounds. Is Sirius a Triple Star?, Adams, H. H. 1983. Its appearance in the dawn sky over Egypt warned of the impending Nile floods and the summer's heat and marked the beginning of the Egyptian calendar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sirius_Mystery. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Y%gbsPFur[%X7Sz Second, while it is difficult to obtain precise locations of many archeological sites referred to in The Sirius Mystery, Temple himself shows a map that gives the location of Behdet (31.23 degE, 31.50 degN) and Thebes (32.63 degE, 25.70 degN). But if the error is real, it reflects on the only kind of hard, checkable, testable evidence Temple has offered for his theories. ", Investigating found no evidence they knew Sirius was a double star or that Sirius B is Some of this information has been selectively interpreted by Temple to support his claims. The Dogon people had been visited by European visitors many times, most notably when they hosted French astronomers looking to find a good vantage point to observe the solar eclipse of 1893. Since Oberg cannot do so, we need not concern ourselves with criticisms of The Sirius Mystery." mystery resurfaces." Print versions available in Dutch, Russian, Japanese, and Korean. Some pseudosciences such as homeopathy and free energy never die. Pseudoarchaeology book by Robert K. G. Temple, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Sirius_Mystery&oldid=1135262588, CS1 maint: bot: original URL status unknown, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 23 January 2023, at 16:12. terrestrial rather than extraterrestrial. As the brightest star in the sky it was known and worshiped by ancient civilizations. The basic thesis is this: the Dogon (who live in the African nation of Mali, near the border with Burkina Faso) allegedly have long possessed arcane astronomical knowledge that should have been impossible for them to discover without modern telescopes. The aliens came here On top of that, there is another star, Sirius B, orbiting at an average distance of about 20 AU (1 AU is the distance between the Earth and Sun). The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. Temple has either misinterpreted Dogon beliefs, or distorted Any planet that close would make Venus, with an average temperature of 450C (840F), look cool and comfortable by comparison. As the brightest star in the sky it was known and worshiped by ancient civilizations. the Sirius "Mystery". WebNew evidence deals a devastating blow to what was considered to be the best case for extraterrestrial visitation. WebThe population numbers between 400,000 and 800,000.. . The Demon-Haunted World - Science as a Candle in the Dark (New Why would Europeans feel compelled that they needed to discuss astronomy with such a primitive tribe and why would this transfer of knowledge that only lasted 5 weeks have such an impact on the Dogan people that they would include it in their cultural practices? The antiquity of the Dogon astronomy is not so obvious as ancient astronaut enthusiasts claim but neither has it been disproved. It was very unlikely that the Dogon had learned of this stars existence from Westerners prior to the visit by Griaule and Dieterlen. For more then 20 years, The Sirius Mystery has influenced speculation about the possibility that our forefathers came from the stars. Temple's book and the debates that followed its release publicized the existence of the Dogon tribe among many New Age followers and proponents of ancient astronaut theories. [7] Others, such as Marcel Griaule's daughter Genevive Calame-Griaule and an anthropologist, Luc de Heusch, came to criticize Van Beek's dismissal as "political" and riddled with "unchecked speculation", demonstrating a general ignorance of Dogon esoteric tradition. He points out that Griaule and Dieterlen stand alone in their claims about the Dogon secret knowledge. The Bad Archaeology page on the Sirius Mystery has summarize the basic details well: In 1976, Robert K G Temple (born 1945), an American living in the UK, published what was to become a seminal work of Bad Archaeology, The Sirius Mystery. S]V',H79aD>1 Q@d(FOY;"36y0Z{VXEJwOx._tto}#&i|HR-i4 for some unknown reason from a planet orbiting ;p7D) As Picknett and Prince have been able to show, Temples arguments are often based on erroneous readings of encyclopdia entries and misrepresentations of ancient Egyptian mythology. Mali was a former French colony (part of the Sudan), so some Dogon may have gone to French schools in the 1920s.7 Or Jesuit missionaries or merchants may have imparted the information to them.8, There may be an even simpler explanation. The second idea, championed by Afrocentrist historians, is that the Dogons either found out about Sirius B on their own or learned about it from the Egyptians. The proof is supplied by (the Odyssey), where Helios is said to possess 7 herds of 50 cows each and 7 herds of 50 sheep, a transparent allegory of the days and nights of the year.") In 1967, Temple began work on the thesis that became The Sirius Mystery. The Dogon and Sirius. The greatest source of error, however, seems to be in Temple's specified location of Behdet. After being surprised that an astromomy association would, after all this time, bother to publish such an article, I did a web search and found that in 1997 Robert Temple published a second edition of the book that started it all TheSirius Mystery in which he addressed none of the main criticisms that had been directed against the first edition, published in 1976. "Nowhere in his 295 page book does Temple offer one specific statement from the Dogon to substantiate his ancient astronauts claim." Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. We need more reliable evidence -- especially theories that can be tested. WebThe star Sirius is certainly no stranger to mysteries. WebThe Dogon understanding of astronomy was comparatively modern but has several known misconceptions - it entirely lines up with the European understanding as of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, before the discovery of relativity. This is strange, because one would think that it would be a major discovery in anthropology. Read Skeptic on Apple or Android devices, or on PC or Mac via PocketMags.com. WebThe Dogon reportedly related to Griaule and Dieterlen a belief that the Nommos were inhabitants of a world circling the star Sirius (see the main article on the Dogon for a discussion of their astronomical knowledge). And this is what Mr. Oberg has done." It is also the home of the brightest star in the night sky, Sirius A. Bullard, Thomas. Found in the constellation after which it is named, it is about 25,000 light years from the sun and 42,000 light years from the centre of the Milky Way. E. "Ancient Astronauts," in, McDaid, Liam. However, doubts have been raised about the reliability of Griaule and Dieterlen's work on which The Sirius Mystery is based,[4][5] and alternative explanations have been proposed. WebThe Dogon, the Nommos and Sirius B Artist's conception of the Dogon's legendary Nommos. "The ancient peoples were not concealing information from us out of spite," he writes. One of the pieces of evidence Temple cites is a sand picture made by the WebAlso there is the fact that they described the Nommo as fish people and you find all kinds of half man/half fish - serpent imagery all over the Mediterranean. Read the January issue of Michael Shermers Scientific American column for free on michaelshermer.com: Kool-Aid Psychology: How optimism trumped realism in the positive-psychology movement. 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